2014 OEM Tires?
In his thread discussing his newly arrived 2014 Prestige, Beopaul said:
That kind of took me aback. Based on my reading/poking around the past few months, I *thought* that the 19 inch OEM tire (at least on the Pure) were all season tires & it was the 20 inch OEM
Correction: the tires are NOT all season! They're Continental CrossContact UHP summer
tires, 235/55R19. And I'm driving on these on icy roads at -15 deg F. This agrees with tirerack.com
stating that this is the one OEM tire for the Prestige 19" wheels, which would mean everyone, at least in the US, will be getting the same.
tire that was summer. In poking around, I don't find anything (other than Tire Rack) that is definitive, and forum searches kind of go both ways.
Can anyone else chime in? Was I correct (but no longer), or was I wrong, or is something else going on?
01-06-2014 09:10 PM
Ok, I may have been wrong. Iin my other thread I just now posted pics of the tires showing the M+S designation which I missed seeing last night. TireRack lists them as OEM Summer tires, which apparently is wrong (unless LR payed Continental to just stamp it on the tires regardless). I think I'll stick with them for now and see how it goes.
Ha! and I followed up in *that* thread pointing to Continential's own site which has one CrossContact UHP (summer tire) and a different CrossContact LX that is M&S, and those pictures you posted show the tire claims to be *both* UHP *and* M&S!
Curiouser and curiouser!
I ran into similar confusion with my Honda Insight. Honda claimed that their OEM tires were Low Rolling Resistance (LRR), but when I called the tire manufacturer directly, they insisted that they were not. In the end, I believed Honda, since the size Honda used was the only one in the line that was LRR, probably at special request of Honda. Might be the same thing here, with a special version made. Hopefully the special version is comprised of more than simply adding two more letters to the side of the tire!
Interesting! I would certainly hope it's a special run of tires just for the vehicle, I'd hate to think they slapped on the M&S for nothing.
Originally Posted by Beopaul
The 2013's have the same OEM tires (Continental CrossContact UHP) and mine do have an M&S stamp on them, but they are definitely not a good tire on snow and ice. I have since swapped them out with proper winter tires and all is good. I'll swap back to them for the summer.
I've been checking out pictures of the new 20" style 14 wheels. They come with Continental CrossContact UHP tires with the M+S on them. I emailed Continental support and asked if they were Mud+Snow all season tires and if they were made specifically for LR.
The CrossContact UHP tire is a summer only Ultra High Performance tire. Some selected fitments meets the criteria for mud and light snow but it is not an all season tire nor should it be used as a snow tire.
Cyberdude is correct. The only thing M+S tells you is that the geometry/tread pattern is good for mud and snow. But it says nothing about the rubber compound used. Winter tires use a softer compound which is best at below 45 degrees fahrenheit. Summer and all season tires get hard below 45 degrees and do not grip as well.
I think Land Rover & Continental's intent is the tires are all-season tires. Summer tires shouldn't see snow and ice! Summer + performance + run flat go together often, but not always. The Conti sure doesn't look like a summer tire.
You shouldn't have to stop just because the pavement does! 2012 Range Rover Evoque Pure Plus Coupe, 2009 Land Rover LR2 HSE traded, 2008 Land Rover LR2 SE traded.
Since my tires need replacement, I did a live chat with someone at TireRack. This i what they said:
at 14:01, Mar 29:
Just curious why Continental Crosscontact UHP is listed as a summer tire and also has M+S rating.
Paul at 14:01, Mar 29:
(235/55R19 105V XL M+S)
That is an all season tire
at 14:02, Mar 29:
but Conti wanted it to be considered more of a Summer tire as they used mostly Summer compounds in the tire
at 14:02, Mar 29:
So it wouldn't do all that well on ice/snow, although it is an all season tire
Last edited by Beopaul; 03-29-2017 at 01:19 PM.