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My wifes evoque just threw a check engine light, she just drove it to Land Rover, they called me and said that as it says 45 miles to empty (this is after 20 miles of driving with it on) it is probably due to low gas.

When I asked what code came up he told me that hadnt connected the computer as they were full and if they did and it turned out to be low gas I would be charged for the check. That pi$$ed me off a bit as we bought this car new from them 3 months ago.

My wife runs the car down to near empty often and we have not had a check engine light before.

Anyway, I just agreeded to fill it up and see what happens for a few days.

Just wanted to hear if anyone else had heard of check engine for nearly low fuel?
 

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Wife drives a 2013 -low fuel light comes on around 45 miles to empty - have not seen a check engine light for low fuel. Dealer story sounds Suspicious
 

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Also this check engine light came on 15 miles BEFORE the low fuel warning.
The dealer says that can happen and it's normal. Then they went on to ask the normal stupid questions like "Did you use premium fuel"

If it is normal that a check engine light for low fuel comes on before a low fuel warning, then there is something very wrong with the core software. I don't really believe that this would happen, and this is why I don't agree with the service guys answer.
 

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Well, never heard of this before. They can call it whatever they want, but if you are under warranty, they have to fix is. However, how's your battery? Cars with CANBUS electrical systems are famous for throwing off random error codes if the battery gets low. Or is going south. If you are consistently getting the infamous 3 minute warning (and not the 10 minute warning) then your battery may be shot. I would get it load tested, by someone you trust.
 

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OK, well today the car is now doing a strange jerking/lurch thing when going forward or back slow with no gas and the foot on the brake, like coming into and out of a garage.
Tonight after starting the car it stalled and then on restarting turned over for 8/10 seconds while flashing 'charging fault'
Also it's starting making a strange clunking noise when starting.

Back to LR to tell them it wasn't a low gas problem.....
 

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The low fuel light has been on in mine several times. I have never had a check engine light for it.

Sounds like you have something going on, and they need to hook it up and figure out the problem
 

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OK, well today the car is now doing a strange jerking/lurch thing when going forward or back slow with no gas and the foot on the brake, like coming into and out of a garage.
Tonight after starting the car it stalled and then on restarting turned over for 8/10 seconds while flashing 'charging fault'
Also it's starting making a strange clunking noise when starting.

Back to LR to tell them it wasn't a low gas problem.....
I REPEAT... how is your battery?

1) When you go to the dealer be sure they have applied the "charging fix" software. Before the fix cars were not getting enough charge.
2) They need to load-test your battery.
3) Run for error codes -- however, if they run for codes and there is nothing logged... that's usually because of a low battery.
 

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I REPEAT... how is your battery? 1) When you go to the dealer be sure they have applied the "charging fix" software. Before the fix cars were not getting enough charge. 2) They need to load-test your battery. 3) Run for error codes -- however, if they run for codes and there is nothing logged... that's usually because of a low battery.
I did ask them to specifically look at the battery.The car gave them 4 different error codes and stalled a few times while in the dealer.They are running some software checks and are in contact with Land Rover as there are some errors that have not been seen before and they have been unable to resolve so far. I don't have the details of the error codes yet.They are keeping it for longer, I told them to keep it until its fixed.once I get the results I will post
 

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Well the car has now been in the shop 3 weeks today!
Turns out that it was some kind of solinoid. They had never heard of it before. They had to wait a week and a half for the part from the production line in Europe.
Now they have had to bring in specialists to help them open up the engine and change the part.....!

Once we get it back (supposed to be on Monday, although the date has changed 4 times since) I will post the exact details of the part that failed.

So much for a low fuel problem...!
 

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Going forward, don't let te fuel go that low. Fill up when the gas tank hits one quarter of the tank. If you let it go down lower, you run the risk of problems in the future.
 

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Out of curiosity, why is that bad for the engine (to be at less than 1/4 tank?)
I don't think it is otherwise the low fuel warning would come on at quarter of a tank or they would change the scale so that quarter looked like nearly empty.
Maybe empty is really still 20% full. Either way the manufacturers would state it somewhere if it posed any real risk. They would be crazy not too as it would cost them money and reputation.
 

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It's probably not "bad for the engine" to be at 1/4 tank or less but it does increase the potential that you will run out of fuel and suck the residue from the boittom of the tnk through the pump, screens and fuel filter, taking a significant chance of clogging them. The injectors are on the other end of that line and usually are less affected, but they too can be clogged with the most minute material that has been floating around in your fuel tank.

In todays fuel, especially, the 10% ethanol tends to scour tanks more than the older straight fuel; it also allows the introduction of more water vapor into the tank as well. When stations in some states started to sell "corn fuel" which was almost 100% ethanol, cars quit running as their fuel filters clogged within hours of the tanks being filled. One unbranded station here in California started to sell higher ethanol blends which was unpermitted; and my spouse worked down the street and filled our Explorer up. A 7 mile drive home and it had to be towed to Ford. The filter was totally clogged.

In an emergency, a 1/4 tank is okay, but we try to keep 1/2 at all times. Just because we never know when we'll have to go out. Must be a throwback to the emergency responder days when you could have a car running all night. Hard to get rid of old habits. Plus, even though the Evoque sips gas, the LR4 sucks it big time!
 

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I ran out of gas in my first month! Yeah, embarrassing…it happened to me my first month of having my new car. I was “testing” how far a tank of gas can go. After reading the forums and the Owner’s Manual, I was confident enough in knowing that I had 3 gallons reserve AFTER I approach 0 miles left on my reading. So, I assumed at the roughly ~23 mpg that I’ve been getting, I could stretch at the most 70 miles. At 30 miles, I ran out! Ironically, I was heading to the gas station in the next 10 miles anyway. Good thing a buddy was a phone call away.

So, what did I learn???? When the gas reserve light comes on, THAT is when your 3 gallons starts to burn. Sure enough, the next time around when I approached empty at the 40 mile mark, the light came on. That 40 plus the 30 I ran past the 0 mile mark at empty equates to the 3 gallons (70 I estimated at earlier). Lesson learned!
 
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